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Posted 2021-09-09 12:48:58
#520133

This is kind of a complicated question in my opinion, because for me a villain should be suited to the kind of story you're telling and to their role in it. I prefer to frame it as "protagonist" vs "antagonist" myself, with either being as evil or good as I want them to be in their setting. Honestly, I quite like to dabble in the murky grey waters of moral ambiguity ;)

Specifically in regards to my lore, I don't think I even have clear protagonists or antagonists. I just tell whichever wolf's story takes my interest, so depending on relationships and circumstance, a wolf who's the hero of one entry might end up the antagonist of another. Some stories turn out to not really have a villain at all, or at least not an antagonist who's a tangible figure.

 Weaselheart
#17081
Posted 2021-09-09 12:57:40
#520142
fair.

I've had maybe two(?) "true" villains in my lore thus far, and even then, they were more victims of circumstance that let their morals be corrupted in search of what they thought was right/the solution to their problem. Or, in one's case, just survival. Which brings me back to your point on "the villain in one perspective may be the hero in another". (which is a VERY good take imo)

Though you make an excellent point: the villain *should* be suited and/or adapted to fit the story they're in. Morally gray villains are, in my opinion, excellent ways to do this. I like having the mental struggle of agreeing with the villain's reasoning even if I don't particularly agree with their methods. (the marvel movie thanos is a pretty good example for me, where I agree that overpopulation can harm a planet/species/people, I don't think the solution is murdering half of everyone there)

However I will counter point that having a villain that's evil just for the sake of it, or just a villain that's hell bent on ruining someone's life for revenge purposes is also very appealing to me, even if I myself have troubles writing it. xD
EasyPlesi
#1499
Posted 2021-09-10 11:54:31
#520652
I for one love to throw villains around., though I've only had one in my pack's lore so far, and he was less villain and more disgruntled ijit. That being said, I do have a bit of trouble making good villains, as my crazy butt always wants to redeem them in some way. But I do love to write, and I'm always searching pretty much everywhere for tips and tricks. One such trick/tip is that our villain or antagonist, doesn't always have to be doing evil/bad things. Sometimes, they might agree with the hero, and even help the hero/protagonist. Which is a good way to hide a villain/antagonist in a story or pack lore.

However, I salivate over a morally gray MC that can be seen as both a protagonist or antagonist depending on one's point of view. They are always so dynamic and beautifully complex. And then there's what I call the "place & time" villain/antagonist, who maybe isn't a bad guy/girl/person but after being pushed too far, ends up decimating an entire family/town/people/species and then returns to normal life.
≋ ПIƧΉΛ ≋
#12663
Posted 2021-09-11 10:44:42
#521066
My lore is full of villains that aren't villains LMAO. Morally grey characters for the win (except for Khloe she is the Victim)
The Magpie Kin
#419
Posted 2021-09-11 14:03:54
#521148
My lore has no active villains in the mortal realm, but the god Arheir and sometiems his sister Lanat have often been portrayed as villains due to their status as illness/decay deities.
Ghost of the Brook
#10341
Posted 2021-09-12 18:16:43
#521674
I personally love having villains who aren't truly villains- My original lore pack has a villain who is technically trying to do what most would consider right, but is considered evil by the wolves it directly affects because they don't know any better.
And villain's who get the heros to do their bidding- currently, my lead Geir is my main hero and his villain is his wife >:)c
Goose
#21992
Posted 2021-09-13 10:26:08
#521977
I'm kinda new with all this lore, where do i start? individual stories for my wolves?
PastelSkulls
#17624
Posted 2021-09-13 10:30:11
#521978
Hey, yeah you can! That's where I started out as well and it sort of spiraled from there

There's not one right way to do this though, you can also come up with a general vibe, or maybe a theme from your favorite story/book/media, or something else that you'd like to do something with, and let the characters of your wolves slot into place as you go

Or do something entirely different still! Anything works
Revukan
#8977
Posted 2021-09-13 20:18:11
#522297
I've currently god individual pov stories in my wolf bios and an overall story in the forums. You can write lore however you want ^^
Rannoch
#38823
Posted 2021-09-16 06:38:32
#523606
what do you guys think of my lead's bio? i tried to explain a couple things (like her anxious personality) and one of my habits there (taking in giveaway pups and buying cute ones in the tc) here she is
sorry it's not very well-written and there may be a typo or two
PastelSkulls
#17624
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