Tweak Chased Pool to Accept Fewer NBWs

I agree with Ren! While the option to outright delete the wolf is fine as is, I still think a filtering system for chased wolves should be implemented :>

Support!

I especially support the suggestion by gnoll #37507! I trawl for NBWs almost everyday, and I chase the unremarkable ones. I feel bad for adding to the glut of NBWs, but there's nothing else I can do. I can't keep them until they die. So I would love the option to completely do away with my 0m, unremarkable NBWs!!

Big support, I think about this guiltily every time I chase a NBW lol!! but there's no other way to get rid of them!

Hi I really appreciate and support your suggestions, as 99% of the chased wolves I encounter are NBW and as I like to chase my pups that don't sell in hopes they make their way into the pool.

I have been dwelling on this also and I think one of the main ways to reduce chase the NBW is to remove the retirement fee. Frankly, it makes no sense to every use when you can chase for free with the same result. If you could essentially "retire" the NBW and other potatoes it would reduce them from the chase pool and even if chasing cost a fee (frankly it would have to be small, 10sc-20sc) it would potentially people more thoughtful about chasing.

I agree with the purpose of this idea, that encountered wolves marked with the falling star should look different than common NBWs, but the idea itself needs to be thought over. T1 bases with common eyes less than 3 markings? What about breed-only T1 bases or special markings? I think there might be some players who'd like those. I'd like to look for alternative ideas and here we have.

NBWs not coming back to the pool is the idea I'd most closely agree. Just make it that if the wolf has the same markings and looks from being befriended to being chased, the wolf is guaranteed not to appear in the pool. It means that if someone attaches a single RMA or changes whatever in looks then chases, the wolf might appear in the pool. However, it would mean that those special wolves would be much easier to be found, kind of too easy. The chased pool would contain mainly wolves that the owners intended them to be in the pool. Wolves with heritage basically get chased before they become adults, which are guaranteed to be removed from the game. Practically, only wolves associated with Raise & Chase and T3 Chase Event would appear in the pool. The purpose of Raise & Chase is to put better wolves into the chased pool so I guess they'd suspend chasing giving space to the wolves from the latter group. If this alternative was considered, I would suggest for chased pups to appear as adults in the pool after days required for them to grow up (24 days for newborn). I think chased pups would be great replacements of the chased NBWs as unwanted pups are chased as often as the NBWs. Some players might enjoy wolves with various markings resulting from breeding a female to desired stud.

Giving an option for chased wolf to be found again looks like an unnecessary feature that complicates the game by one button/checkbox. For the simple player, the chase function is to get rid of unwanted wolves without getting them back. Why would the player care about the wolf that the game would recognize as another one with the same looks? If the player wants the wolf for another player to be found, wouldn't it be simpler to just sell this wolf in the TC? There's no gameplay reason why chasing with purposeful chance to re-appear would be better than selling.

@Dżanek I've seen players say that if they can't sell a wolf, they try not to chase it until adulthood because they want a chance for that wolf to be found. (See here for an example.)

i do like snow's suggestion, though seeing as how i sometimes chase heritageless t2s after breeding them it does have its flaws. 

honestly, i don't think there needs to be a change in the chasing system, but a separate system that gets rid of nbws as fast as chasing without adding them into the chase pool. as someone who befriends nbws, scrys them, and casts them out, i'm stuck with chasing because the next best option is to wait 5 days for them to starve to death, which takes a lot of pack space i could be using for other nbws. having an alternative "chase" mechanic (maybe that karma system that the devs have been hinting at?) where i can get rid of my nbws without adding them into the chase pool would help a lot

I thought a bit more and have some better consolidated opinions ~

- I actually don't think there should be specific filtering to decide whether non-G1 wolves can enter the pool, because it'd have to be chosen semi-arbitrarily and if the threshold is too high it'd make 'good' chases too common, and the reason they're exciting and interesting now is that they're pretty damn uncommon compared to non-G1 wolves with the same traits.

- I definitely think heritageless wolves should be prevented from re-entering the pool. No reason to have them there.

- I like the possibility of pups appearing, but I think it should be a decreased chance for pups to successfully enter the pool vs adols vs adults since there are probably a LOT more chased pups than rechased NBWs, and it seems like it could dilute the population of intentional, high quality chases too much. Letting pups/adols possibly appear would also have the bonus of making people more likely to chase "good-ish" pups out of convenience rather than being stuck with the choice between raising to adulthood vs trying to sell them. I always try to toss pups out for cheap before chasing them if I think they're pretty - I'd be more inclined to just chase them if I knew there was still a chance they'd stick around. Less pups in the TC is good, obviously. It would also make "half-assed R&Cing" a possibility, where you just raise to adol and chase then.

For "realism" reasons, it probably shouldn't be possible for unweaned pups to enter the chased pool, though. They ded. No milk out there. :(

So basically I think it would be better if the portion of chased NBWs currently made up of re-chased normal NBWs were made up of an equivalent portion of pre-adulthood G2+ chased wolves instead, since it's a much more mixed and interesting bag than regular NBWs but without being disproportionately specifically-selected high quality chases.

yeah this is such a big issue. Ive only gotten two chaseds, but they were both worse than a lot of regular nbws ive seen. Chased means nothing most of the time.

I think a lot has been said already, but another way to fix may be to check how long they've been in the pack for. Or just how long they've existed. If it was generated not long ago, dont put it in the pool, cause that means its a nbw

I think letting pups join the pool, perhaps later such that theyve grown up in the wild, would fix a lot of these problems. A lot of pups are pretty okay, just not good enough for the person breeding them, I know Ive chased some that I wouldnt mind to see return heritageless.