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Lessen the cooldown for new pair bonds

Posted 2021-05-16 13:30:42
#456082

No support. A lot of people have put some good points already, but my main one is that it would lose the meaning behind a pair bond. It's really not easily to lose a bond that you formed especially with basically a virtual wolf marriage where in the game, it's death do us part. Wolves do mate for a long time and unless you have something like lore behind a particularly promiscuous wolf, then I can't really see any positives on this. The pups and breeding oversaturation would just worsen if pair bonds would be so short. Female wolves can still breed with other studs or breeding males anyway, so it would be pointless to break off the bonds half the time anyway. It would be a waste of mood loss.

I would say support if the pair bond cooldown was around half the time it is if one of the mates dies or leaves the pack. But as annoying as I find it to be sometimes, I like the idea between sticking with one pair bond and taking a good while before moving on.

 Sinxerely | Slava Ukraini
#26651
Posted 2021-05-16 15:35:30
#456170

I think the cool down is fine as-is, but there should be some method to re-establish an existing pair bond if a wolf runs and is brought back.
Badger
#10939
Posted 2021-05-17 09:38:21 (edited)
#456857

I agree with Gin Wolf and Badger. If someone wants to bring two wolves together, needs that person to think about if they want to do this in the long term. I only find an exception for a shorter period of mourning justified if a wolf from a pair bond has run away or dies. And I say this as a person who has already brought wolves apart and then had to wait for the 30 rollover.
Loel
#19678
Posted 2021-09-05 12:17:35 (edited)
#517792
I've had a female who was 6 years old and I thought she would still ber fertile enough for one more breeding, right? But her partner died before I could breed them together one last time so that I could keep her pup and she was GORGEOUS so I really wanted a pup from her. I had a really good male wolf for her because of similar markings and having markings very unique from her, so I knew their pups would look GREAT. However. Waiting 30 Rollovers to breed her again left it too late because when she was in her 7th year she was too old to get pregnant... and I was not willing to have her breed with a breeding male because I wanted it to be a wolf from my pack instead of a strange wolf that she doesn't know, I only breed my females to breeding males when I intend to sell the pups. It's just how I play.

So I support this.
🦊Trolljan
#3269
Posted 2021-09-09 15:51:33
#520201
I've read through the comments and there's a lot of points on both sides. I think HecateHybrid brings up a good point about female's breeding cool down.

And the puppy populations is already an issue as it is now, I think shorting the cool down a little bit will make this issue any larger than it already is.

So here's my suggestions:

I think a in the case of you disbanding a bond or a mate dying, if it was just a little shorter would be nice. Ex, lowering the cooldown to 20 or 25 days long. So there's still a long wait but it's 2.5 to 5 months in the wolf's age. That could little difference could mean an older wolf has another chance to bond and breed. As HecateHybrid said the breeding cool down is not affected one way or another, its always 20 days after having pups.

A couple players also brought the issue of when a mate runs,  it sounds like there is a pair bond cooldown in this case of a wolf running. In this case,  there shouldn't be any cool down for those wolves to bond to same mate again if you reclaim them. My suggestion would be is when you reclaim that wolf there could be a box asking if you want the wolf to re-bond with its mate. If not then the cooldown I mentioned above will be applied to both wolves.
Dre
#37719
Posted 2021-09-09 16:06:04
#520206
^^^
I agree with Dre
🦊Trolljan
#3269
Posted 2021-09-09 16:07:17
#520207
i  agree with Dre # 37719
magicwhitewolf
#25645
Posted 2021-09-10 15:14:24
#520786
I think 30 rollovers is a bit too long, too. 20-24 would be better
⌘Tallbarr⌘
#29379
Posted 2023-05-14 14:01:09
#1015461
I support. 30 real days is definitely excessive. I've accidentally paired the wrong wolves together before, then had to wait that 30 days, wasting all that time when I could have been trying to get good pups.
🥀ʀᴇɴ
#1431
Posted 2023-05-15 00:17:33
#1015628
Support. No one can pump out hundreds of pups off pair bond breeding and that's a disingenuous stance. The month long wait ruins the whole concept, on top of that limited breedings a month reduce how much breeding you can do within the pack, on top of that females do not always bear and wean 5 strong pups. There would be no issue with overcrowding the TC, which is overcrowded by pups from studs (not pair bonds).

If I take care of all my wolves the pair bond cool down shouldn't be so damaging, you miss 1 wolf being fed and now you've messed up a pair bond for 30 days. By the time I get to breed those two again (if at all, because I pair older males on mid aged females often, because there's 0 opportunities to breed your males) they've aged up or died out. Studs you pay for are the ones who pump out 1000 pups and there's no limit or punishment to them, so why on pair bonding ?
Smoocio
#7656
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