Code Breaker
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Code Breaker
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Posted 2023-11-15 14:46:24 (edited)
So I randomly click the colored stones and I get, on one occasion, two white stones on the top part of that set of four receptacles (not the big ones but that set of four tiny ones next to it). I take the white stones to indicate that I go the right color in the right spot, right? And when I get the red dots it means I got the right ones but in the wrong place, right? SO..I try to repeat my pattern using what I assumed where the right stones in the right place; let's say that in the set of those four tiny dots I first used a blue and a yellow and the top two of those tiny receptacles (or whatever you wanna call them) lit up white so in the next line I use my Blue, Yellow then maybe a Red and a Green. Now on the bottom set of those tiny little lights up red and blank. No worries..I repeat using my initial Blue and Yellow then chose a different pattern for the last two but now the top two little dots are no longer white; one might be but the other is red or blank. So my questions is that if the red indicates a right color but wrong place then what does the white ones indicate? It is very aggravating really. Or better yet, how do I know what position is actually correct? It seems there is no way to tell, using those little dots, what is where. |
Pine Demon #114837 |
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Posted 2023-11-15 18:55:47
 Your goal is to get the right code in the least amount of guesses as you can, as you know. In my game, you can see my first guess gave me two red blips, and two empty blips. Red feedback means you got a color right, just in the wrong position. White feedback means you got one of the colors right and in the correct position; the order of feedback does not correspond with the board. Empty blip means you need a new color on the board. There may be games where you have repetitive code, so you have to keep that in mind. Knowing I have got two of the colors right, just in the wrong place, I try to flip the colors around of the ones I already used to get a better idea of what goes where, using the process of elimination before making a new guess. You can see how I crept yellow along until it finally landed in the correct spot in guess #4, unlucky for me with it being the last color of the code. Since I had to add two new colors, I went ahead and introduced green into the code, and then red after that. In guess #5, I figured out that blue was correct, and red was apart of the code as indicated by the red feedback blip. Orange had to not be correct, based on past observations. Code Breaker is a process of elimination guessing game that relies on memory, or notes if that helps you, and a tad bit of luck with how you start your first guess. Don't stress yourself out over it! Keep playing, come up with a strategy. I'm still trying to figure out the best strategy for when I play myself, as although the above strat works, it's not efficient, I do not think. I know I'm not the best at explaining, so please ask questions if I need to clarify my thinking! |
 Nҽʅƚԋყҽɳ #2537 |
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Posted 2023-11-15 19:17:02
So the red ones indicate right color but wrong place and white indicates right color, right place but again I don't know where that 'right' place is because I do not know/understand just where that little dot thingee corresponds to. If the first two little dots are white, does that refer to the first two big circles? That part is also frustratingly...frustrating... |
Pine Demon #114837 |
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Posted 2023-11-15 19:27:29
Correct! It's still a guessing game if you get white dots. It will not; it could be the last two circles just as much, or any other combo. That's why when you know for a fact a color does not go in x place, you need to cross it out in your mind, or make a note. As in the first example, I know I got two colors of the code, but the code is wrong for any of the positions, so I will not use those colors again in those positions in my next guesses. In the first three lines, I was trying to find exactly where those two red blips could be, without knowing which ones is giving me the red blip. At that point, I should've actually took out one of the colors and used a color I hadn't used, and make guesses after that, but at the time I wasn't thinking that way. It's all trial and error! |
Nҽʅƚԋყҽɳ #2537 |
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Posted 2023-11-15 19:41:06
Honestly, it's really down to finding a strategy that works for you. One guide that I use, and here's another. |
 Darklily #1058 |
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Posted 2023-11-15 19:46:40
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Pine Demon #114837 |
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Posted 2023-11-15 19:50:56
On white feedback in the case of you get 1 white and 3 red, on your next guess you'll swap three of the colors and keep one the same, and hopefully your guess gets closer than before. A tad luck based, yes, but the strats Darklily linked to is a good way to play! |
Nҽʅƚԋყҽɳ #2537 |
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Posted 2023-11-15 20:09:03
The puzzle can be thought of like this too (I'm kind of assuming unlimited guesses with the following, but the strategy still might help): -You have four 6-sided dice that are rolled that you have to guess the order in which they were rolled and what the results were. -Let's say the order is 1-2-3-4 to make things simple. -You guess 2-3-4-5, and are told that 3 of these are correct in number, but none of them are in the right position. -You try 5-5-5-5 and are told none are correct. You now know either one of the other numbers (2,3,4) are in the order twice or the fourth number is either 1 or 6. -You guess 6-6-6-6 and none are correct. -You guess 1-1-1-1 and get that one of these is in the correct order and position. -You now know all four numbers, but not their correct order. So you can either randomly plug in the numbers, guessing 4-2-3-1 and get told three are correct in number only and one number is correct order and number. -You can also use the knowledge you have of which ones are not in the order at all to then guess 6-6-3-6 and find that 3 is in the third position. Since we're assuming unlimited guesses in this number game version, eventually using either different combination of 1,2,3,4 or using numbers you know are wrong to find the right position of each, you will eventually find the order is 1-2-3-4. Obviously with Code Breaker, however, we have limited guesses, so the strategy to use wrong colors you know are wrong should be used limitedly. The game pretty much requires a lot of guessing and just a bit of strategy. It took me a bit to get the hang of it too, but now I get max-prize range everyday (I don't submit a score unless it's in the 1600+ prize range). |
Darklily #1058 |
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Posted 2023-11-15 20:26:27
I may try it again...thanks for the help. It still makes my brain spasm but I will keep trying. |
Pine Demon #114837 |
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Posted 2023-11-16 01:35:24
I start by choosing all the same color in a row. After I hit Guess the 4 spots to the right of the stones will display how many of that color are in the right spot.  Where they are on the right doesn't show which order they're in as you guess. But, by doing each color by itself in a single row you can quickly see how many colors to use in your Guesses going forward. For this game I don't need to use any green stones at all. Two red, 1 blue, & 1 gold give me better odds of getting the order right in fewer guesses. Also, by doing this each time, I just won a game on my first row of all red. After so many games, of course I saved a pic of it! 
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