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SALIGIA CANNOT BE A DATABLE WOLF | TW: Abusive and Toxic relationship/behavior

Posted 2024-11-26 01:52:10
Opposed.

Kora was also very strong and can on certain paths be manipulative too. You can be forced to allow Kora to kill Saligia or the opposite way around. Yes, Saligia is the main villain of the storyline but it shouldn't affect anyone's IRL lives except for making us feel things during the storyline (because stories are meant to make us feel emotions, obviously.)

I have experience with manipulative/toxic relationships, romantic and not. Saligia's actions weren't super evil and are definitely not worse than any politician. Her actions aren't like any of the manipulative actions people have taken on me, she just wanted us to aid her and understandably is mad when we change sides.

Just because she acted "abusively" to the user character while with her coven, that doesn't mean she'd act those ways when she's not trying to achieve those goals or being away from her coven, as she would be if she was date-able. It would be a good time to expand on her character outside of the brief time we saw her in that one storyline.

The devs know who their audience is and would cater to that, changing her for next time that event comes up to make her more palatable would be a waste of time.
Miyuki gives Gifts 🎁
#130067

Posted 2024-11-26 12:45:45
My first comment in Support disappeared due to being too short. But I absolutely support this topic.

Miyuki,
Yes, Saligia is the main villain of the storyline but it shouldn't affect anyone's IRL lives except for making us feel things during the storyline (because stories are meant to make us feel emotions, obviously.)

Why introduce toxicity into the game beyond her original part? Yes Saligia is the main villain & works in the story in that capacity, but adding her as a dateable option is gaslighting players that she's something she's not .Especially new players who haven't run into her before.
"Shouldn't affect" anyone in real life isn't the same as won't.

Celtic Ravens
#31620

Posted 2024-11-26 14:01:07
Miyuki how is this at all okay? She was abusive, why add something like that to a kids game? You are basically saying it is a okay to be with someone who is abusive to you.  You also claimed you were in a toxic  relationship, why on earth are you on board with adding such a thing to a kids game??
Just because she acted "abusively" to the user character while with her coven, that doesn't mean she'd act those ways when she's not trying to achieve those goals or being away from her coven, as she would be if she was date-able. It would be a good time to expand on her character outside of the brief time we saw her in that one storyline.

DetectivePurple
#2186

Posted 2024-11-26 19:22:21
Opposed.

Sorry, But I like and enjoy the devs creativity to create stories and characters for Wolvden in fact it inspires me to write stories for my pack. Hating on one character you may as well just say you hated the entire Halloween event. I honestly wouldn't mind Saligia as a dateable NPC for matchmaker. Devs never said she was abusive in a relationship so I don't know where anyone got this information from. Besides during the Halloween event that was just how she was written for that particular story, During matchmaker may show a side of Saligia that wasn't seen during the Halloween event. Since Faelcu is dateable in Matchmaker then Saligia can too.

Also, Just my opinion but Wolvden is not a kids site. This is a wolf breeding site which in my opinion isn't suitable for children. If children play this then they should be responsible and mature enough or be supervised by parents. This is based on how my parents raised me. If this site came out when I was younger then my parents wouldn't let me play it without parental supervision.
The Roaming Spirit
#27565

Posted 2024-11-26 19:31:42
I oppose this.

Everyone supporting this is basically saying Saligia shouldn't be a character in this game. From my understanding all you want to do is try and convince the devs to completely rewrite the halloween story. I only seen one side of the story and I did play through the halloween story and did not find Saligia any more aggressive than Kora. And just to say all NPCs are hard to fight, possibly level 25, it's not suppose to be super easy to beat up an NPC. The entire halloween story is a bit unclear as we all only played through it one time. There is multiple ends to this story and this was only the first time we all got to experience it. Due to lack of full knowledge of the characters I will state that it's far too soon to judge who was the real villain.

For those that don't know, If you side with Kora and cure her corruption you have the option to let Kora kill Saligia. This post targets Saligia as the main villain but I honestly didn't see Saligia as abusive when I read the story. I didn't even have to fight Saligia at all. So my point is it's too soon to judge the character.

I've played the matchmaker event and it isn't that descriptive as all you do is give gifts and select a date spot. There is no info about what the wolves do on the date other than commenting about your lead's eyes, fur, and scenary. It's not like you really pledging your life to them. This post is just silly and very judgmental about the devs halloween inspired story and character. You can date a Faelcu and to be honest we are in the story about them and how are they any less evil? The Coigreach story specifically states that mortal wolves are just toys for the Faelcu to "manipulate" and that isn't considered abusive and manipulative?

I'm not trying to be negative just stating facts. Again I think it's far too soon to even judge any characters in the story. I'm not stating that you all are wrong but what has been said is not how I seen Saligia at all. She actually seemed rather mysterious, determined, and secretive about what she was doing which did not seem abusive or manipulative. Perhaps it's because I was secretly sided with Kora and deceiving Saligia from the start pretty much because Kora out right attacked me in the story because I smelled like the wiches. Saligia thought I was on her side the whole time till the very end. So in my view of the story Saligia was not abusive or manipulative.

Perhaps before judging a character, you could get more insight on how other's seen her. The story is just like Coigreach and your choices effect the outcome. Not everyone has the same ending as it varies based on choices made.
Dragon Desire
#26750

Posted 2024-11-26 19:55:56
I would love to see where anyone said Saligia shouldn't be a character in this game through this thread, literally everyone agreed she is a wonderful character for the storyline she is in. As for your standpoint on the Faelcu, their fae and therefore fairly morally ambiguous and not outright evil. Saligia just doesn't seem to be a good option for ROMANCE, she's amazingly written and everyone clearly experienced her differently based on the 4 endings available in Octobers event.

Overall I can see why some people don't think it's a big deal, but those who don't need to understand it COULD be for others.

⚔️Ren⚔️ [Light's on]
#87527

Posted 2024-11-26 20:41:15
DetectivePurple this is simply not a kids game. It is literally about breeding wolves. The February event isn't detailed enough for a character like Saligia to continue to act "abusively" especially when the Faelcu from this current event who is also portrayed as the villain in this storyline is dateable and is not aggressive to user characters in the February event.

As I said before, the devs know their audience and allowed us to vote on a poll. If they do bring Saligia to the Matchmaker event as the majority of users wanted (when voting to add all Halloween event characters to it) then it is still an option to completely avoid Saligia and not interact with her within that event.

It's NOT THAT DEEP! There's so many NPCs who are dateable that we don't even meet them all in the event as it is rng.
Miyuki gives Gifts 🎁
#130067

Posted 2024-11-28 01:17:44
I wasn't going to reply but the opposition has steadily grown more baffling.

1. Nobody that I'm aware of said Saligia should be removed as a character, only should not be added to the February event where she doesn't currently exist. None of this has anything to do with hating the Halloween event, that is a stretch.

2. The Faelcu characters in the Coigreach storyline are different Faelcu than the one in the February event. They're irrelevant unless you're pulling an 'all Faelcu act the same' argument, which was an opinion stated by characters in Coigreach.

3. Surely the other paths don't alter her character to the degree of turning her into an angel with no hint of malice or deceit, that wouldn't make sense. She is manipulative and that is an objective fact. That is how she was written. I would provide evidence but GH hasn't added the story to the wiki yet.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on any of this, I'm just so confused. Like... did we all somehow play different events? Am I going insane lol.

Whirligig (Hiatus)
#11137

Posted 2024-11-28 09:13:59
Since no one actually read my reply I'll repeat it in slightly different words then.

This post is pretty much hate to Saligia. You all say she's a great character but as soon as the devs ask the community to add her as dateable in matchmaker then you all want her rewritten. Since everyone is missing the fact that the dating event is not detailed enough to imply a toxic relationship of any kind.

We all only played through the event once, which their is 4 different endings, and my twin and I both played the event together and seen the story differently because of choices we chose. In mine Saligia just gave up because Kora was outright threatening to kill her. My twin chose not to save Saligia's life and Kora killed her despite Saligia's desperate pleas for her life.

Like I said in my previous reply, I'm not saying anyone is wrong but I personally think it's too soon to judge the character. I know everyone has their own opinions and I'm just voicing mine. I do not speak for everyone.
Dragon Desire
#26750

Posted 2024-11-28 09:22:21
Sorry but last I checked this is a forum post and everyone has the right to give their own opinions on if the support or oppose this.

Not everyone reads the characters the same way. Personally, Saligia was no more manipulative than Kora who practically forces the player to side with her to deceive Saligia and the witches. Besides there are different sides to the characters it's all about creativity here. And no one knows how she is in a romantic relationship. The devs haven't even made her personality in that perspective yet so no one can determine precisely how she would act towards the player during February.

If I'm wrong then let me know where it said during the Halloween story that Saligia is in a toxic romantic relationship with the player.

If I'm not allowed to give my own opinion on opposing this then by all means show me the rules of the forums saying I must support everything posted even if I don't cause I simply don't see Saligia as abusive at all.
The Roaming Spirit
#27565

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