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Increase (or remove) the monthly restriction of pair-bonded breedings

Posted 2021-01-11 08:36:00

I'm happy they listened, though disappointed there's still a cap, since there are technically already other things in place to limit your pairs. I can understand why a little, but it's still eh. Mostly, though, I'm a little annoyed that you have to spend almost $175 worth of GC to get only 22 slots. However, how they've done it means that you're getting almost 1/4th of your potential pairs per month regardless of how many slots you have and I'm not planning on pairing every single wolf I have - that would be impractical for a number of reasons. I also probably only have the resources to handle 5-10 pregnant females at a time anyway, so it works. I'm already trying to plan out how to use them, but it's going to take some time, since goal number one is 80 slots so I have 10 pair bond breedings so I can pretty much do five every other week. This does free me up to do... pretty much anything I want now, really. I'm debating lethal mutations, new and unique Albinism and Melanism lines, and unique blood stats, but each has their own issues that make them a pain in my arse. :P


Volinolona
#13549

Posted 2021-01-11 10:26:51

I'm very disappointed with the change I don't get stud requests at all since they implemented pair-bonding breeding I like it and I do use it but I feel like it's going to hurt the stock market for regular players like me when you players who don't have very special breeding males

I like the idea it gives male wolves far more purpose I think it does more harm to stud Market me personally Sunstate implemented pair bonding I've only used one outside stud

So I guess it's mixed feelings for me I like it and it's great day race half a bit but I still feel like they shouldn't have because it hurts the stud market 

KalikaRoo31
#2874

Posted 2021-01-11 10:42:29

I've used quite a few studs this past "breeding season" (as I call it since everyone's in heat at about the same time for me) due to the pair bond breeding cap, so I don't think it actually hurts the stud market too much as it stands currently. As far as I can tell, it's probably more of a preference issue relating to studs with tier III bases/mutations and the like.


Robin
#799

Posted 2021-01-11 10:51:36

I’m okay with this compromise. I’m biased because I want to keep my pack small & can expand my lair to get enough slots for every pair, but either way it’s a big improvement. And same sex pairs are a fun addition, I bonded a couple wolves immediately. 


Badger
#10939

Posted 2021-01-11 11:12:31

I love this, currently. The cap could be a little looser, but I'm not mad about it. Hopefully this'll allow people a little more variety in their bloodlines to keep inbreeding from running rampant. 


Goose
#21992

Posted 2021-01-11 11:23:00

@KalikaRoo31#2874 - People who don't have special breeding males really don't get stud requests in the first place. Most people won't even look at TI studs. I don't think anything is going to change for people who have TI studs, since some people will still go to them for the clean breeding they tend to provide, since a TI stud is often a NBW or newbie free custom and therefore has no heritage AND someone else is putting the resources in to level said stud. I wouldn't ever send a request to your stud myself, even without this update, because they're a TI, only have two markings, their ventral marking (White Medium Husky) is in slot 1 instead of slot 6 or above, and their stats are lower than I would want to breed to. I also have a preference for lead studs over scouting studs because leads regenerate energy faster, but I don't think that's a common preference, just another weird me thing.

I also don't think your lack of stud requests has much to do with the pair bonding mechanic either - my stud hasn't been getting requests either because of TIII studs being a thing now. And, of course, my recent lack of advertising, which I should probably change.


On other notes, personally, I am still going to be using studs for a minimum of ten of my females. My hunters are all made for stats and I'm not going to sacrifice my scout slots to train mates for them. It's much easier - and cheaper - for me to use a stud, as the other person has done the leveling and statting for me. Plus, according to my lore, all my hunters are lesbians, so it would be kind of weird for me to pair bond them to males and I would honestly be very uncomfortable doing so.

I'm very excited for the other new potential markets this opens up. Not only did I have several male pups sell recently - strangely, my males sold easier than my females if you can believe it - but I already have plans for leveling and selling clean, statted males for other people to work into their bloodlines. I'm not much into breeding due to the RNG involved, but I'll gladly sell other people the supplies to do so. My scouts just hit 16 today and they will be retired from scouting to pupsitting when they hit 20. Once those slots are free, I'll have all sorts of leveling and sales opportunities waiting for me.


Volinolona
#13549

Posted 2021-01-11 11:50:15 (edited)

I can live with it. Still think the cap should be gone but I do get the compromise. The feature is actually usable now anyway, and I can take advantage of the fact I only want a small pack so can eventually buy enough slots.

And yeah, I could see basic studs with nothing much going for them but cheapness might have trouble competing with pair bonding. Since people can get the same result by breeding them with any random wolf, when they do want to buy a stud now they might be looking for something that has something special about it? (TII or TIII, breed/applicator only markings, many markings, carried mutations, special eyes... Things that they might not already have in their own den.)

But did these sorts of studs really have much interest before honestly?
Plenty of very nice studs offer refunds and those that don't are just a few SC more. I still plan to use studs (I only wanted in-den breeding so my lore pairs could breed together the last couple times of their lives) but I'm looking at studs that at least have the potential to sire pups that are worth as much or more than their fee.
All I can do with TI, no mark pups is chase them.

I have a custom (no special marks) TII breeding male with 600+ stats and the few requests I got on him (like 1 a week since he reached 500 stats,) stopped. Was it fox? Breeding males? An abundance of much nicer studs? All 5 people who wanted to breed with a natural looking g1 found him and that's it?
I don't really care either way, I'd rather have pair breeding than the 1000 SC he managed to make me in the nearly 3 months he's been set as my breeding male.

Owlbear
#6449

Posted 2021-01-11 12:10:31

In my opinion the common studs such as mine did get a fair amount of requests prior I would normally get at lease one to two stud request a week before pair bonding was added after I haven't gotten a single one

There will be a very good stud market for studs with rare bases and markings but it hurts the market for players like me 

I'm not saying get rid of it or lower the cap just hope they do something to help the market for casual and the new players

KalikaRoo31
#2874

Posted 2021-01-11 12:55:04

Honestly I'm quite tired of hearing the 'hurts the stud market' complaint as the stud market really is only good for those who can afford high stat, custom wolves. A lot of people don't even touch the stud market (myself included. I only touch it to keep new bloodlines going in my pack, and thats very rarely anyways), and like someone stated earlier, T1 studs very rarely get studded out to. Personally, I don't think they should do something to help the market, because the market is solely player based. Any sort of interference by the admins will always be biased towards one side of the market or the other. The admins won't be able to win because if they help,common studs out, the rare base and T3 stud owners will throw a fit. If they help out those rare studs, common stud owners will throw a fit. Honestly I don't like the stud market, but I don't think it needs "fixed" or changed, because players have the ability to "fix" and change it themselves. If you have a problem with the stud market, take it up with the players not the admins.


The Magpie Kin
#419

Posted 2021-01-11 13:51:52

I’d rather have a diverse market than a stud-only market. There are other ways to make cones - including selling male pups, thanks to this update. Or saving existing cones by not turning to studs for every damn breeding. (I am going to save SO much silver, I am happy as a clam.)


Badger
#10939

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