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Explore Fighting Exp Gains [Data Collection Phase]

Posted 2020-10-28 03:08:02 (edited)

I will be starting a win/loss/retreat data gathering next. Should I have a singular form or just make one per biome? Let me know if either sounds nicer to use or if you have another preference!


I should have a rough guide for Easy-Difficult Biomes soon. The Challenging ones might be incomplete.


I was also considering offering bounties, SC/GC amounts tbd, for raising a lead wolf from 1-20 in a single biome minus deviations for slay quests. If I did that, would anyone be interest in doing so? It would be some time before a lot of folks are ready to retire, but that gives me time to hoard SC for that purpose.



UnheardSiren
#3537

Posted 2020-10-28 03:42:23

I might be interested in such a deal. But what exactly are trying to gain from leveling your lead in just one biome?



Sienna Snow
#402

Posted 2020-10-28 04:02:55 (edited)

There seems to be a difference in exp for different kinds of enemies. Once the leveling curve starts getting higher this difference could make certain biomes more advantageous for certain levels. But this is hard to prove with both the RNG in getting fights and the RNG of fighting it's self. So the idea is to have as many controls as possible, which the easiest is to just level in a single biome so that no other enemy types would influence it much. I'd of course not like to make people miss out on quests, so there would be a margin of error. But an acceptable one.

If one biome favors getting to say level 10 faster (win/loss/retreat ratio favors winning when picking fights +/- 3 levels to your lead / enemies tending to be ones that give even a slight larger increase of exp) then moving there before you pick a new lead would be advantageous to players interested in finding chased wolves. Same goes for level 15 for special NBWs and 20 to max leveled stat gains.

Basically people could plan starting over in a biome to get an early leveling advantage when you have to rescout and have more of an idea which biomes to prioritize rescouting. Mind you this would be more targeted away from leaderboarder strategies as they will  have much higher stats than your average player. But the collected data would be public just like the current sheet, so it'll be there for whatever use the WD public wants to get out of it aside from my objective too.


UnheardSiren
#3537

Posted 2020-11-02 10:17:58

Logged a couple fights, bookmarking this for later


JJ !!
#11736

Posted 2020-11-06 07:24:53

This is a cool project!  Mostly I'd love to see a summary of which enemies give you which stats.


Nika
#10475

Posted 2020-11-06 09:08:26

@Nika

Thank you very much! I hope once it's done, it's a handy guide for WD to help others enjoy getting to the Chased/Special NBWs sooner and easier when you have to re-level a new lead wolf.

There are quite a few of those already filled in on the spreadsheet linked in the first post! But I am going to try to include it where I have it reported when I get to formatting the guide.

I've been a bit under the weather, but hopefully that'll be done soon as the last thing I need is to try to do math while I'm a bit foggy with a fever. I'd rather slowly do this thing instead of rushing it and it be a hot mess or just plain wrong.


UnheardSiren
#3537

Posted 2020-11-06 09:10:26

Ouch, yeah, absolutely! I hope you feel better soon.


Nika
#10475

Posted 2020-11-09 12:41:42 (edited)

More personal update than the now second post 'official' update space.

Wolvden has an impressive amount of enemies actually. Making up the new sheets that are one page per enemy it becomes really obvious.

Regardless, update from me. I separating everything by enemy now and about to start seeing if some of our more frequently fought enemies have a logical seeming exp range to them. If they do, I will be able to look into seeing if gaps can be filled speculatively with math until we get solid reports.

There are a lot of things here, the stats reported are kinda interesting to look though. I suggest Bobcat as one that has quite a few entries if you'd like to see what I mean. It doesn't seem to be random, but it doesn't look like it's always the same for every enemy either.


UnheardSiren
#3537

Posted 2020-11-23 17:15:26

I put together a enemy/stat count table based on the data in your spreadsheet - feel free to copy it to your spreadsheet so it auto-updates as you get more data!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EUBZmTpDODsQ7kawbz8ctnQ1RHIn2orDM8FgXers-rA/edit#gid=142138892


Nika
#10475

Posted 2020-12-15 21:03:45 (edited)

Just posting again to drop some fox data; additional battles will be edited into this reply. Hope you’re doing alright :o

lead levelenemy levelenemy typeEXPstat
1316Gray Fox459none
1311Gray Fox358none
135Red Fox117none
1316Gray Fox466none
131Gray Fox12none
1311Red Fox321none
132Red Fox15none
1310Red Fox290none
136Gray Fox151none
137Red Fox173none
1310Gray Fox308none
136Gray Fox146none
1415Gray Fox474none
1412Red Fox407none
141Red Fox14none
1417Red Fox561none
1415Red Fox512none
143Red Fox29none
1412Red Fox381none
147Red Fox188none
1416Arctic Fox573none
142Red Fox11none
1418Red Fox612none
1413Red Fox461+1 Smarts
148Gray Fox216none
143Gray Fox20none
153Red Fox14none
155Red Fox303none
1515Gray Fox579none
1518Red Fox579none
1516Red Fox564none
158Gray Fox
239
none
1516Red Fox587+1 Smarts
159Red Fox
258none
159Red Fox
273none
159Arctic Fox261none
15
6Red Fox
129none
1512Gray Fox
393none
1511Red Fox
344none
158Red Fox225none
1513Red Fox440none
154Red Fox
59
none
159Gray Fox
276none
1510Arctic Fox353none
1517Red Fox
603
none
1617Red Fox
661none
1613Gray Fox
486none
1612Red Fox437none
1619Gray Fox
654+1 Agility
1618Red Fox
670+1 Smarts
166Gray Fox
126none
167Red Fox
197none
1610Gray Fox
336none
1613Red Fox
490none
169Red Fox245none
1614Gray Fox
547
none
1617Red Fox
613+1 Agility
1711Red Fox335none
1715Gray Fox553none
1711Gray Fox
349none
1718Gray Fox694none
1718Red Fox684none
1916Gray Fox616+1 Smarts
1920Gray Fox
802none
1919
Red Fox
770none
1917Gray Fox
673none
1919Red Fox
813none
1919Arctic Fox
844none
1918Red Fox
823+1 Agility
1919Gray Fox
745none


ALSO I hecked up on one of the Google Form entries; the Porcupine Caribou Herd from 1/15/2021 10:08:26 should be just the Caribou, singular, not an entire herd. Herd after that is fine though. Apologies for the mix-up!


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