[Chased] Allow players to encounter their own Chased wolves
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Posted 2023-06-15 03:12:28
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 Veil of shadows (🕯️on ) #52300 |
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Posted 2023-06-16 03:29:17
If this would let those that do R&C find their wolves on their own and minimize the chance of that awkward conversation I never wanna have if I find a good wolf then I'm all for it, providing there's a way to say 'yeah just delete this wolf entirely'. |
 otterbells #4284 |
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Posted 2023-06-16 03:54:55
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Veil of shadows (🕯️on ) #52300 |
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Posted 2023-06-16 10:27:05 (edited)
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 mercurie #35270 |
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Posted 2023-06-16 12:37:01
Again, the reason I even said that was due to this vibe I was getting that players expect to get their wolves back and get frustrated/annoyed with the finders when that doesn't happen. Nobody is owed back that wolf in any shape or form. There is nothing wrong with hoping to get a wolf back, I've done that too. I'm saying to assume you'll be getting that wolf back if it's found is wrong, and frankly setting oneself up for disappointment. This suggestion wouldn't change that, because people would still be finding other people's chases. (I won't be replying here again if anyone's worried about me spamming.) |
 Whirligig (Hiatus) #11137 |
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Posted 2023-06-16 12:45:55 (edited)
Which is why it would be nice to find our own chased sometimes, perhaps as a talent. Which would then mean not everyone has to use that talent, which I personally don't see a problem with. And again like I said above, the game has changed, as things do overtime. Nothing stays the same. I don't mean to sound bitchy!!! 🙈 it's just a debate and I get very passionate about things sometimes 🤍 |
Veil of shadows (🕯️on ) #52300 |
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Posted 2023-06-16 13:07:03 (edited)
I have chased over 600 wolves and to date have been able to buy back 3 of them. |
mercurie #35270 |
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Posted 2023-06-16 13:18:45
I would not spend all that food and amusement items on raising UNWANTED wolves until they are 1 year old if they weren't my BEST wolves! I enclave the wolves that I don't care if I get them back or not, so that I don't need to spend all that $$ on raising them up. Luckily some of those pups get raised by someone else and chased and I buy back some of those wolves as adults.. I have not caught a wolf of my own breeding in a long time thou.. (Chased by someone else) I do cull a few adult wolves for space but there was a reason I let them have a litter or two before I chase them it was because I LIKED them not because they were unwanted wolves.. |
 Donna #835 |
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Posted 2023-06-16 19:46:21
Like I sometimes befriend completely blank Plain Jane NBWs we all run into on any given day. I don't intend to keep them, they're just there to fill up a role until a pup ages up to take it or I find a better NBW for it. When I'm done with it, I chase. Plain wolves are already common in encounters. If this feature suggested in the OP of the thread to encounter our own chaseds is implemented then imo it only feels fair to have a button to fully "exile" a wolf so that any encounter slot of that nature won't be taken up by a plain wolf. That way y'all that do R&C won't be impacted by it at all and those of us that don't care for it can have a functional way to cull wolves that we genuinely never want to see again. It's really not that complicated? |
otterbells #4284 |
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Posted 2023-06-18 13:02:28 (edited)
Considering the plausible sense and rarity these wolves have when getting through the pool, and from my own drawn records that I still keep around as more a logistics reference, I just slightly fear this isn't all-for-good cause with everyone. I've only done R&C for an exact year back in 2021-2022, when it was merely the peak of doing such stuff, the potential given to wolves nowadays when they receive the title of "Chased" doesn't really fare nicely. My time back in 2021-2022 was chasing wolves that are most similar to current chaseds: T1s/T2s with event marks/BO marks/etc., and T3s/T*s that I came across via breeding that someone would possibly like. In total, across all tiers, that was 748 wolves. 748 potential dogs that could pass through the pool and become a cherished pack member. Out of those 748, there was 99 that made it through. These 99 I would keep up to date with. Making sure none died without my knowledge (passively; I wasn't an intrusive DMer saying "Take care of your chaseds better") so I could log that they no longer existed, and just seeing how their new owner was treating them. One instance will always stick with me as it was the first Chromium I've ever chased. This Chromium was found, and absolutely smothered. Decor, prime leveling for its status... And then it suddenly disappeared. At first I assumed I typed the URL wrong, but the red banner after even triple-checking proved my theory: it was removed, in some form or another. A few days later, it was back. And another week or so passed and it disappeared again. This chased was neglected on not one, not two, but three different instances. The rest of the pack was nicely fed and nourished, and the mere wolf I chased for someone to be happy with was being abandoned right before my very eyes. I like to think this was the moment that started my R&C decline. The reason I tell this is namely the sake it isn't a problem with R&Cers wanting some of their own back at the rare chance, but rather the impact it has on the finders alone. This modern day that people are going on about and that "the chased community is different now" is a weird claim to make in my honest opinion. Those I deemed chase-worthy back in 2021 and 2022 are merely identical to those that exist now in 2023, and they're being treated all the same: chased again and neglected. Only for the sake that TC isn't selling off chased like it used to. And I know not everyone sells their chaseds, but like most have pointed out: this chasing system was made to rid of wolves no one wants anymore, and the main reason R&C was brought to WD was by the sister site and its similar features. People selling chaseds is a repetition of the process: finding to sell and get rid of wolves they don't want. Owning a chased even is a common thing nowadays. So much so that people wanting to rid of chaseds they find, hoping to return to the owner, have to drop rates low enough that someone who genuinely does want to better the wolf's current state can take them. Truly not saying TC is greedy to the point nothing absolutely sells, but it shows. Multiple people who just doesn't have room for chaseds say it's hard enough to get rid of them even at 20-25 GC for T3/T* of the variety since everyone practically owns one at this point. Even from personal buying for a project of mine led me down the rabbithole of spending 20-45 GC per T3 NBW just so someone didn't have room issues or lack of interest anymore. It's not the R&Cers that are truly at fault here, it's genuinely those who find them and can't find a place to go with them, albeit in their own pack or someone else's. Adding that small percentage to the chaser alone to find these chaseds alleviates the stress other finders have when trying to fix wolf displacement. And the reason I led with my rates is that I had a roughly 13.24% chance at a chased making it through the pool, most having higher in their logs at roughly 15-20% depending on the amount chased and amount found. This suggestion can possibly relieve non-chasers of the fear of keeping a chased they don't want, and have R&Cers still be okay with finding chaseds of their own. A full circle sense of pride even. TL;DR: This is a fine concept for only the sake of alleviating chased finding rates off of other finders. Those who want to rid of chaseds need better benefits without the stress of waiting for someone to pick up a wolf they don't want. *Brief Edit: Realized I should probably add my log as conclusive evidence in the part talking about the logistics of chaseds making it through the pool, and to further prove that I was, in fact, chasing wolves similar to modern-day chaseds: Google Sheets: Chased Wolf Masterlist |
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