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Deviation Markings Research (Information Needed)

Deviation Markings Research (Information Needed)
Posted 2022-12-15 10:00:05 (edited)
So I've become curious with the deviation markings. Either it doesn't matter enough for anyone to care to research it, (In which case I'm doing this for fun and SCIENCE) or no one took the time to, and everyone secretly wants to know. (In which case, take careful note that I am doing this for the good of humanity)

For those of you who don't know, this is the full "Marking Deviation" section of "Grouse House Genetics: Marking Guide"
Marking Deviations
Some marking shapes may produce deviations, or mutations, from breeding.

There is a small chance that certain marking shapes will mutate into different shapes within the same tier, but only if the original marking is a Tier 0 or Tier 1 marking. Markings will most likely only be able to mutate into a different marking with a similar name. For example, Cape mutating into Cape Ticking.

Markings which don't belong in Tier 0 or Tier 1 will not have the chance to mutate. So, the Wings Heavy marking could not mutate into the Wings marking.

A Tier 0 or Tier 1 Shepherd marking has a chance of deviating into a Shepherd Heavy marking.
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We know that Tier 6 includes Combo Markings (color combination) and some Deviations (shape changes).
The rest of the information I've been able to find is copied below.

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Development Update 2:

New Markings
New custom markings: Cover (Black, Brown, Dark Brown, Gray, Red) + Auburn Combo
New custom markings: Half Cover (Black, Brown, Dark Brown)
(Cover & Half Cover are in the same group and might deviate during breeding!)
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Summary on Tier 6 markings (which include deviation marks)
Detailed Marking Reference
Tier 6 markings are considered "breed-only" markings as, other than through RMAs and Total Shuffles, they can only be obtained through breeding the correct markings or marking combinations. These include both combo color markings as well as shape deviation markings.

Combo markings, covered earlier in this guide, result when two compatible colors and at least one compatible shape are bred together.

Deviation markings, also covered above, can appear randomly when a wolf has a compatible marking.
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Other than this, nothing. No one has research published.

So I'm setting up a spreadsheet thingy to maybe collect data maybe. Or just be a nuisance. Or both.
I don't think anything else related to the wolf other than the shape/tier of the marking will matter here.

Only add tier 0 or tier 1.
Don't worry about if you breed a mark and get a blank slot. We already know the probability of that. Or, rather, people older and probably smarter than me figured it out and I copied their work.

Marking Passing Genetics (from Grouse House Detailed Genetic guide)
If both parents have a marking in a specific slot, there is an estimated 60% chance that the pup will get a marking in that slot in general. Once it's decided that the pup will get a marking in the slot, it is a 50/50 chance for which parent's marking they will receive. Identical markings that are bred in the same slot (both parents have the exact same marking in the same slot) have a 75% chance of passing directly onto the pup, rather than a 60% chance.

If only one parent has a marking in a specific slot, the puppies have a 50% chance to obtain that marking.


Here's my current spreadsheet. It's not done yet, but you can get an idea of what kind of things I'm looking for. I'm looking for, when a marking is passed, the probability any specific marking will deviate in shape. Therefore, I need data from both boring, and interesting litter results. Too much information is better than too little, so go nuts if anyone wants to help.
Spreadsheet

JDoggyGirl (NC)
#106775

Posted 2022-12-15 10:20:18 (edited)
It recently occurred to me that the categories that the search function puts the markings into might influence the deviation possibilities. Let the searching commence
I cross referenced everything with the wardrobe list of markings, and deleted all of the marking types that only have non-T1


Type Groups:
17 categories, 42 total markings
Back Patch
- Back edge patch
- Back half patch
- Back heavy patch

Blanket
- blanket ticking

Bottoms
- Low bottoms

Cape
- Cape ticking
- Half cape
- Half cape ticking

cover
- half cover

dorsal
- half dorsal

elbows
- elbow patch

husky
- light husky
- medium husky
- heavy husky

mask
- half mask
- full mask

nose (Doesn't exist alone)
- nose bridge
- nose line

rump
- full rump
- rump edge
- rump patch

saddle
- half saddle
- saddle ticking

shoulder (doesn't exist alone)
- shoulder patch
- shoulders

smudge
- smudge heavy

socks
- half socks

throat
- throat patch


All the other ones that don't have categories/groupings
50 Markings
Agouti
Back
Back Stripe
Belly Stripe
Blaze
Butcher
Carnage
cheek fluff
chest
chest stripe
Cross
dilution
ear tips
eyebrows
Forehead
gentle unders
grizzle
half stripe
head stripe
highlights
inner ear
inverted agouti
inverted cross
irish
limbs
mantle
marbled unders
muzzle
muzzle patch
neck
neck band
neck stripe
patchy unders
paws
predator
rump stripe
shepherd
snout
spectacles
stained limbs
tail tip
toes
trim
tuxedo
underbelly
undercoat
underfur
unders
undersides
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JDoggyGirl (NC)
#106775

Posted 2022-12-15 10:20:30 (edited)

List of known Deviations:


Cape to Half Cape Ticking
Source: Personal Experience

Shepard to Shepard Heavy
Source: Personal Experience

Cover and Half Cover (Direction Unknown)
Source: Grouse House Guide/Development Update 2

Shoulder Patch to Shoulders
Source: Leonca #54339 in the comment section of GH Genetics Guide

Nose Bridge to Nose Line
Source: Zodiakey #19804 in the comment section of GH Genetics Guide

JDoggyGirl (NC)
#106775

Posted 2023-05-03 09:34:57
Saving for maybe space?

JDoggyGirl (NC)
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