Breeding Terminology for Future Reference - A Proposal

@Jason, thanks!  I was struggling to think of something that wouldn’t have negative connotations to some, as I both breed animals and plants. There is nothing wrong with a pedigree line, just as there is nothing wrong with a wild-type line.  But words do mean a lot to many people.

Thanks, kinda new to this, I'll use NIB !!! But I would like keeping the inbreed term because well reproducing parents is inbreeding  and lineage is way too vague for me ??

edit : Not to sounds mean to people who don't care about inbreeding or not !! I don't care at all !! (English is not my first language)

I like LB/NLB it sounds good. Feel like ppl might lean more to IB/NIB since it will be easier to say & remember but I think either are better than clean/dirty

Tbh I was thinking after I wrote it that we should add a term for line-bred. The thing is that line-bred has a specific real world meaning  which helps to define 'acceptable' levels of inbreeding. Most pedigree animal clubs don't accept father/daughter, mother/son, or full-sibling matings, because of the lack of genetic diversity, so they don't really fall under the category of line-breeding.

To me, NIB is an animal with no ancestor repeated in the pedigree/heritage, LB (line bred) is a pairing between uncle/niece, aunt/nephew, half-siblings, cousins, grandparent/grandson or daughter, and IB is a wolf born to first degree relatives. Going by real life, there should also be the term "outcross" or "outcrossed" (OCR) for a wolf that came from inbred or line-bred ancestors but has no repeated ancestors in 5 generations. Personally, I'll be trying to limit my breeding NIB and OCR (outcrossed) wolves, with some line-breeding here and there.

I too dislike the terms clean and dirty breeding. Those terms implies that one is right and one is wrong.

I like VagueShapes Suggestion for the names. Some people are really confused by the clean breeding criteria and that is annoying when it comes to buying lions on TC on Lioden. Separate name would make it easier. Personally I would use NIB and maybe OCR. I’m really strict on LD but I have to wait until the game progresses to know how hard will it be to Hard Mode on WD  

I 100% agree with this suggestion. I'm currently on hiatus from an equine site solely due to the mess of terms such as "clean" and "dirty" lines. My main problem with this terminology is that it kind of forces players to play in one playstyle (dirty has a bad connotation on it), and in the case of that equine site it has quite frankly ruined the market, due to fears from all players about creating "dirty" lines. This leads to players only breeding amongst themselves hindering the buying and selling of assets. 

I'm using THIS (click) calculator to judge the COI of my wolves, and avoid a COI above 5%, with some exceptions for buying outsider wolves and project wolves. COI stands for Coefficient of Inbreeding, and is used in real dogs, and 5% COI is the generally accepted cap for safety, though in some breeds because of inbreeding/close linebreeding being so popular and/or necessary (doberman for example), you may find higher percents to be more common. 

The issue with COI is that you can only calculate for x number of generations, so I'm going back 12 generations, via that calculator I linked, which is the furthest I can go without leaping to 20. I'm hoping to find a 15 generation calculator, but that's just because I like the number more lmao. 

Honestly though, I doubt clean/dirty will stop being used or debated. This is just my little thing and my resource :3

I think using linebreeding in PLACE of inbreeding would be incorrect, as a brother-sister pairing IS inbreeding. I believe inbreeding vs linebreeding in dogs is defined as any breeding within siblings, parents, aunts/uncles, cousins, and grandparents. Half siblings I know also count as inbreeding. Anything else I believe is considered linebreeding, but I may be forgetting something. However, I'd love to see IB, LB, and NLB be used! Just clean/dirty makes it difficult for me to do my little COI thing, while being able to look for only LB or NLB wolves would be very useful!

Totally random but one cub I got recently is literally a Gen 4 lion on LD. Rosette cub so it would be valuable however...The problem that I forgot to check the lineage and they share a male. It’s considered dirty even though it’s a  low gen cub. More terminology would certainly make it easier to sell that thing for much better money. 

I like IB and NIB as general terms! LB/NLB and OCR seem helpful for people who want to use those to define more specific playstyles. I would love to play by OCR/"first page clean" rules on LD but the market and terminology makes that such a pain.