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Inbreeding Warning Pop-Up

Posted 2021-09-12 10:25:41
#521490
Support! I recently bred a daughter/father together on accident. Now I gotta chuck the entire litter. I'm fine with distant inbreeding (one of my purchased pups come from albinism lines. Theres.. a lot) but anything less than 4 generations is a no-go. 		Tech 3.0
#5155
Posted 2021-09-14 10:48:43
#522568
Full support!
dearhunter
#29460
Posted 2021-09-14 10:53:55
#522580
Yes and no for support it would make sense, but it wouldnt be too too easy for coding I dont think, for clean linages maybe just keep the gens low? That *Would* fix the problem, or even double checking before breeding
xofrnk [INACTIVE]
#10923
Posted 2021-09-14 15:10:48 (edited)
#522730
Mistakes are incredibly easy to make even if you are checking, friend, and maintaining multiple low-gen wolves is like playing on some completely unnecessary hard mode.
DogBlud
#24586
Posted 2021-09-14 15:16:20
#522731
That is how you can get rid of the issue, its quite easy to start your own little linage just my opinion on it, if yout dont want IB wolfs just keep them with low linage its not really hard-- Kinda rubbed off rude to me but that could just be me :P /c
xofrnk [INACTIVE]
#10923
Posted 2021-09-15 20:39:53
#523457
It's easy to start a lineage, yeah. (I've actually got most of my wolves documented with family trees). But you have to outcross pretty frequently or else you risk your entire pack being inbred and/or dying out. This especially goes for smaller packs.

A lot of my wolves are related, and the only things I have preventing inbreeding at the moment is
1. Carefully choosing what wolves get to breed and how many pups can be kept from each litter.
2. Bringing in entirely unrelated wolves into the pack.
3. Outcrossing with studs.

I suppose you can just do all the outcrossing using NBWs, but you'll inevitably hit a ceiling with how many stats your wolf can have. Doesn't really matter if your BM has 1000 stats if they're forced to breed with wolves that are ~250-300s. Eventually the pack will be limited by the stats of the NBWs. 		Tech 3.0
#5155
Posted 2021-09-15 21:00:33
#523464
Absolutely agreed @Tech 3.0
dearhunter
#29460
Posted 2021-09-15 21:02:47 (edited)
#523466
Yeah, which is not how everyone wants to play. Wanting to cultivate a LONG lineage is sometimes part of that playstyle. It's not a lot to ask for some basic functionality to facilitate with that, so, no, 'just restart with NBW's is not an option or even a solution for everyone.

EDIT: that was @Atlas in case it wasn't obvious.
DogBlud
#24586
Posted 2021-09-16 08:10:46
#523694
I remember this itchy moment when intending to NIB for stats I bred a high stat female to her half-sibling. The milk was spilled, I kept playing.

Actually the game doesn't recognize inbreeding, it doesn't have a legal term, such as it didn't exist. As inbreeding doesn't exist in-game, you have to catch the general term, but this term is so relative that you're allowed to advertise inbred wolves as NIB.

And even though the purpose of the suggestion is to help NIB players to match wolves, I think it's fine that the game doesn't hint about inbreeding, that this is not mentioned at all. It's impossible to implement this without bothering players completely unaware of inbreeding whether it's a warning pop-up, an option to toggle or scrying feature.
Dżanek
#24018
Posted 2021-09-17 16:28:04
#525059
@Dżanek

It can be a toggle where the default is there's no inbreeding warnings. It will not bother anyone who doesn't care, and those of us who do can simply turn it on. 		Tech 3.0
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